Let shows or real stories tell. The shocking secrets of the Let Them Talk program. What happens at the main show of the country! Search for themes and characters
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The talk show on Channel One is the "bottom" of Russian television. Ratings "Let them talk" after five issues with Shurygina jumped to the skies. But how are the participants in the programs lured? How much pay? Bribery, threats and hypnosis are common. One of the participants in the show committed suicide after the broadcast, the editor's nerves broke down and she quit. Former participants and employees of the "yellow" talk show on television talked about how the show's producers lure stars and ordinary people into their networks. The corresponding investigation was posted on the Dozhd website.
The authors of the investigation learned that at first, the editors of the scandalous shows offer residents of the province an average of 5,000 rubles for participating in the program, and also pay for flights and accommodation in the capital. In the event that a person refuses, the amount is sometimes raised to 50 thousand rubles, although the majority agree to 15 thousand.
For the provinces, 5 thousand rubles is very good money, I must say, and 15 is a fortune in general.
At the same time, the main characters can be paid 100 thousand rubles or more. “I don’t think the Shurygina’s family was paid half a million, as the press writes about it. I think they were paid 200 thousand, maybe 300 thousand,” said Andrei Zaoksky, a former correspondent of “Let them talk”.
Apparently, this should calm someone down. Like, yes, not half a lem there, but only 300 thousand. Just for a fake story about rape, as a result of which a man is behind bars, and a girl is a media person in great demand and an Internet star.
However, some of the staff at these shows have truly unique persuasion skills. "Do you believe in hypnosis? So I, for example, believe, because next to me was a girl who could bring, just make the cripple get out of bed, sit in a taxi in an hour and come to Moscow," said the former editor of Live "Christina Pokatilova.
In some shows, editors deliberately "wind" their characters in front of the air, asking them provocative questions to turn them on and provoke emotions. After that, already in the studio, the participants appear electrified and ready to break into hysterics at any moment.
It's amazing that gas is not allowed ...
In addition, it is not uncommon for editors to resort to threats. "You can detain and hold a person by talking about what we will sue you, you are such scoundrels," said Vitalia Pankova, who participated in the program "Male Female".
It is not very clear what the court is for. For taking part?
The stars who are regulars on such shows are trying to earn their popularity in this way. So the former bride of Prokhor Chaliapin, Anna Kalashnikova, admits that after each scandalous release, about 50 thousand users on Instagram instantly subscribe to her.
Often, the editors of talk shows meanly deceive their heroes. “They just deceived us. , from the Moscow City Council, deputy State Duma there was some one sitting there. And they will help you in everything. Nobody helped us at all. And that's all. And Misha remained to die with Sveta. Misha died in Sveta's house, "- said the heroine of the talk show" Live "Regina Yastrenskaya.
In general, what we fought for, we ran into it.
According to the former editor of "Live", sometimes the heroes do not even know which program they will have to participate in. “People, let's say, came to the program thinking that they were going to the Blue Light, or they were going to the Health program, and as a result they were released into the studio, and they understood that there was a TV presenter in front of them, who clearly did not has to do with the health program. The most amazing thing is that when a person enters the studio, he no longer runs away. Do you think he will come out now, he will understand that he was deceived - how, where? No, "said Christina Pokatilova.
That is, you are invited, say, to cook together with Urgant in the "Smak" program, and you find yourself in the "Let them talk" studio, where the established audience shouts "Shame! Shame!" It's funny.
As it turned out, many editors could not stand it as a result and quit their job. So Julia Panich, who worked as an editor for "Let Them Talk", quit after one of the heroes of the show committed suicide after the broadcast.
But let's go back to earth. Do you think there are really people in this world who, of their own accord, want to get into this hotbed of hell? It is highly doubtful.
For example, not so long ago Nemikhail visited the program studio. He, of course, although not against unnecessary PR, hardly went there for free. And given the above figures for the broadcast relative to media personalities, even if on the site of LiveJournal, this is not frail additional income besides blog advertising.
So it turns out that everything is bought and sold. It seems to be not new truths, everyone understands this perfectly, but the soul is still somehow disgusting. I am afraid to even imagine what the prices for participation in political talk shows, which come to shout so-called "experts".
Would you go to such a transfer for the money? And for how much?
Teacher foreign languages By profession, Irina began to take an interest in journalism and graduated from TV presenters courses in Novosibirsk, and then went to Moscow with a dream to work on Channel One. After long attempts to get an internship and participate in numerous filming, our countrywoman was lucky.
Once, after filming Let Them Talk, she approached the producer with a question about an internship. So she ended up on the other side of the screen - first as an intern and later as a junior editor.
Search for themes and characters
- On the very first day of my internship, I was shown sites where I can search for information, and given the task of "punching" topics. At that time, there were six teams in the editorial office of Let the Talk, each with a correspondent and operator. When they found something interesting, they wrote to the producer of the program Natalya Galkovich an SMS with a short excerpt, for example, “the woman put her father on a chain”. If the topic came up, the producer would say, "Punch." And then we walked along the corridor and shouted that this topic was clogged.
Next, it was necessary to find contacts of the main characters. They called either the police or the hospital, depending on where the story happened. Social networks were involved. After all the contacts of the heroes were found, they tried to contact the two conflicting parties. When all the work was done, and the heroes agreed to come to the shooting, the correspondent with the operator went to this region. On the spot, they filmed short stories and then took out the heroes.
Sometimes it turned out that the editors of several TV channels at once broke through the same topic, and the correspondents met right on the spot.
If the heroes are in conflict, for example, the husband and wife are at enmity, then it was necessary that they did not know that both were going to the program. We lodged them in different hotels located far from each other. And then, already in the television center, a whole operation was unfolded. In "Ostankino" the corridors are very long, dressing rooms are located on different sides of the corridors. Usually all editors have walkie-talkies, and they tell each other: "So, take your wife out, lead it in such and such a corridor so that she does not meet with her husband." And behind the scenes, they were in different places.
In memory of "Ostankino" there was a pass.Photo courtesy of Irina Dyukareva
Behind the scenes, everything that happens in the studio is broadcast live on the screen. Sometimes the hero has the opportunity to observe what is happening, and sometimes he is deliberately taken out later so that he does not intersect with anyone. In this case, he does not know anything about what was said in the studio before him.
How heroes are persuaded to come to TV
- Usual human persuasion is used. Of course, maybe deception is used to some extent. There was a story in which a woman put her father on a chain. I found this topic and persuaded the woman to come. What was the point in her going to television? There was a deep tragic background to that situation. Surely, her father had senile insanity, and the woman had to go to work. Often, elderly people who are not themselves can leave home and get lost. Accordingly, the woman was looking for some way out. And perhaps for her this was the only solution to the problem. She had to do this so that her father would not run away. Of course, this is a tragedy for the family, but for a journalist the main thing is to show a sensation.
We told the person: “You understand, you can be condemned, but if you come to television, you thereby show the society your position that you have nothing to fear, that you are open and admit your guilt”.
On the other hand, the program can be useful for the heroes, because the studio is invited famous people, among them - doctors, deputies, psychologists, psychiatrists. And, if a person has a problem, they can help him. For example, if a person is obese and weighs more than 150 kilograms, he was given direct contacts of professors of the best clinics in Moscow.
This is how the editors appeal, saying that they will connect program participants with competent people who will help them. Or they say that by their example heroes can help other families.
This is how the workplace in the editorial office looked. Photo courtesy of Irina Dyukareva
Persuasion skills were not specifically taught. It's just that when you are in the editorial office, you hear how colleagues work and learn from their experience.
There were many cases when the heroes abruptly refused and simply did not pick up the phone. My colleague had a situation when the hero arrived in Moscow and, already standing behind the scenes, refused to participate in the program. The chief editor had to force him to go into the studio almost by force.
What's going on in the studio
- At that time, the stars did not come to us often - there were more social topics. Most of the experts come for PR. But there were famous people of the age who were paid a fee. At that time, it was 15-30 thousand rubles - for the fact that the star would sit on the set of one program for an hour and a half, while it was possible not to talk a lot, but simply to express your opinion. This amount was included in the program budget and then transferred in an envelope.
Irina was photographed with Dima Bilan after the program dedicated to his 30th birthday. Photo courtesy of Irina Dyukareva
There was not a single case that an ordinary hero was paid to participate in the program. Naturally, the hero came to Moscow for free, he was put in a hotel, usually "3 stars". At the television center he was fed free of charge. It happened that I myself traveled with the heroes around Moscow and conducted excursions (this was just at the time when the program was launched on Russia-1 - “Live.” We picked up the heroes early so that a competitor would not intercept them).
There is a special person in the studio who sets off a wave of applause. There are people who are already prepared in advance to be "for" or "against". They usually sit in the third row. These are the ones that the guest editor worked with. If they shouted out a good phrase, the presenter approaches them, and if not, then he cuts off. Ordinary spectators don't scream.
Among the crowd, as a rule, there are grandmothers and students. There is the bulk of the crowd, which was paid 100 rubles for one shoot.
About Andrey Malakhov
- Personally, I practically did not communicate with him, since I was not needed, because the editor of the team communicates with the chief editor, and the chief editor with Andrei Malakhov. But, naturally, I saw him, we worked on the same floor. A couple of times he came to our office.
According to my observations, Andrei Malakhov is a little closed person in dealing with strangers. For example, Ivan Urgant (I was on the set) always smiles when he enters the studio and greets all the spectators. When Malakhov enters the studio, everyone starts to applaud, but he continues to study the script with a serious face, not paying attention to it. At the same time, Andrei always communicates sincerely with the characters and tries to help them.
1. Life-threatening search
In search of the right characters, talk show editors sometimes spend a month, or even several! They have to go to remote villages, forgotten villages, risk their lives.
2. Get the hero at any cost
Finding a hero is only a small part! The most difficult task is to persuade him. To do this, the editors go to great lengths: pay the participants travel and accommodation for the duration of the filming!
3. Personal entrance for everyone
The main task of the editor is to bring all participants to the start of filming, keeping complete secrecy. Hide all opponents in different rooms, lead them along separate corridors so that no one sees or knows about each other!
Can you imagine what a surge of emotions will happen on the air when they all meet?
4. Are the “real” heroes real?
For the most part, yes! But the heroes do not know the whole truth about what awaits them on the show until the very beginning of filming! And some are not even told what the show is. They just invite you to the first channel!
5. How much is your shame worth?
Although most of the participants in the show are real heroes with real stories, there are sometimes fictional ones. So, for example, the heroes contact the editorial board of the program and tell their own non-trivial story, often invented. A script is written for them, and they come to talk shows with the text they have learned in advance!
As everyone knows, so-called experts are always present in the studio. Most often, these are psychologists. Their the main task is to bring the hero to real emotions: tears, a fight, hysteria. And thus make a frenzied talk show rating ...
7. All fights are supervised
All fights on the show, whether planned or not, are always closely monitored by security guards. They are behind the scenes and only appear at a critical moment. Leaders and experts never get involved in conflict resolution.
Believe it or not, Vasily Vasilyev, a resident of Petrozavodsk, has long become his own man on many federal channels. He starred in famous TV shows and series. True, his role is not quite usual. Today Vasily can sit in the studio of one program and play a single father, and tomorrow he is already a windy hero-lover on the air of another program. Vasily told us frankly about how the filming process is going, how much the actors are paid and why there is no truth in any TV show. Still crying over another wonderful family reunion on Wait for Me? Then here's the shocking truth. After such a story, I don't want to watch TV ... We read interesting details of the stars' life behind the scenes!
A year and a half ago I moved to Moscow. I got acquainted with a neighbor who is recruiting a group for all kinds of shooting. It turned out that he needed people, and I needed a job. He invited me to the shooting. I agreed.
Participated in various programs. On TNT "They and We", "Six Frames", in the film "Mixed Feelings". On TVC the program "Without cheating". On "Russia 1" in the series "Heart of the Star" in eight episodes. On Saturday evening in 12 programs and others.
How does it all happen? They give me the text, I memorize it and tell the editor before filming. The editor listens and approves. The camera turns on. If the editor has two people in mind for one role, then the one who tells the best is chosen. Before filming, they conduct a small casting.
The recordings do not take place live... If there is any hitch, then the shooting is stopped and everything is replayed again.
The duration of filming is different. For example, the program "Saturday evening" is filmed for at least two hours. Philip Kirkorov comes, sings 8 songs, changes clothes 8 times, and then the shooting is cut into 8 gears. If Kirkorov did not get into the phonogram and did not open his mouth in time, then he starts singing all over again. And so with every artist.
There are always editors behind the scenes which show whom to clap when and how to smile.
There is no truth in any of the programs. Even though this is the "Hour of Judgment", even though "Wait for me" ... All the characters and stories are fictional.
There is a program called "Live". But that's just a name. Filming takes place under recording, not live. Although once the program was shown live, when the shooting was dedicated to Eurovision. The topics in this show are always funny. Well, they are also fictional.
There is no simple spectator in any program.... Absolutely all viewers who are present on the set receive money. The smallest bet is in the Let Them Talk program. There, a spectator who simply watches the process and claps is paid 700 rubles. And this is in 4 hours. For the program "They and We," where I talked about my relationship with my fictional wife, I was paid 14 thousand. And the shooting of the program was done at 4 o'clock. Gordon and Strizhenova are masters of their craft. Gordon never has a double. Everything is removed the first time.
By the way, in life Gordon is a pleasant and easy-going person, and Strizhenova, on the contrary, does not let anyone near her. I liked Zhirinovsky. Very funny. Sergey Zverev always turns up his nose from fans. In each pause, makeup artists correct his makeup.
The hero of one show can easily become another hero, and already with a completely different story. There is a base of actors, from where people are recruited for extras.
I have never participated in the TV show "Wait for Me" older viewers are recruited there. But I know that the stories there are also fictional. And people, supposedly looking for each other for decades, actually see each other for the first time in their lives.
Perhaps somewhere they tell real stories, But neither I, nor my friends got into such shooting.
In all programs absolutely all spectators and participants are made up... If you need to say some words, then make-up is applied for about half an hour.
For every shoot, the actors are told what to wear. In almost all television programs, the small cell and thin strip are prohibited. Such clothes are dazzling in the eyes. It often happens that the summer season is filmed in winter, and the winter season in summer.
To get to the main roles you must have a higher theatrical education. I agree with that. Professional actors are different from nuggets. When I looked at myself from the side, I laughed a lot at the way I speak. But, nevertheless, I'm not going to study to be an actor.
In principle, you can make a living by attending TV shows. In the worst case, you can get 1,500 rubles a day. Of course, this is not much for Moscow, but still.
Friends and parents react normally to my activities. Many people don't even watch TV, so they rarely see me on TV.
I want to continue shooting additional earnings are not superfluous.